Comments on: Beware the Top Docs https://theexaminingroom.com/2010/04/beware-the-top-docs/ A physician's commentary on current issues in medicine, clinical research, health and wellness. Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:29:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Greg P https://theexaminingroom.com/2010/04/beware-the-top-docs/comment-page-1/#comment-896 Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:29:38 +0000 https://theexaminingroom.com/?p=700#comment-896 There is typically in most places an unspoken sense of who the best doctors are, but it’s contained because it’s the sense we get about our colleagues. It has its limitations, for example, I have no good sense of who the best gynecologists are since neurologists aren’t seeing common patients.
But certainly, as we go over the thoroughness of another doc’s notes, hear feedback from their patients about how nice (or not so nice) they are, discuss various difficult patients with them, we clearly develop preferences. Even so, there is a disconnect here, since that doesn’t necessarily mean I will refer all my patients to those doctors or even that I would choose them for my own needs(!).
Mr. Falchuk and others try to get at this information, but much of it is inaccessible and he knows it. Most surveys are designed more to get clear results, which isn’t the same thing as getting answers to the most important issues.
The other aspect of this is that there aren’t so many, maybe it’s rare for a doctor in some field to be the best at everything they see. I know I have my blind spots, the areas of neurology I am less comfortable with, the areas I have little interest in and therefore intentionally don’t spend a lot of time keeping up in those segments.
The important thing is to be aware of those areas so that you can either refuse such problems up front or refer them on to those who are more appropriate. Some of the best primary physicians I know have a great knack for knowing when they need help and when they don’t, so this is not something unique to specialists.

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By: Evan Falchuk https://theexaminingroom.com/2010/04/beware-the-top-docs/comment-page-1/#comment-894 Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:25:50 +0000 https://theexaminingroom.com/?p=700#comment-894 Thanks for the post, Dr. Charles.

I think you make excellent points, and this is coming from me, the President of a company called Best Doctors. We’re responsible for creating some of these lists.

In medicine, in which thoughtful judgment is the key to success, I think a doctor’s reputation among his peers is the best way to get an idea of how good they are. And so that’s how we do our surveys.

Still, the issue in medical care isn’t your doctor’s reputation. Instead, it’s the extent to which he or she is able to spend time with you, think about your problems, and render good advice.

Very few people working in public or private insurers seem to understand this. It’s why you see these deeply misguided attempts to measure doctor quality like the ones you describe.

But I believe these attitudes are changing, and it’s because patients are getting fed up with a system that doesn’t let them really get what they want from their doctors. In this sense, think of popularity of these “top docs” issues as an expression of this growing consumer frustration.

Once there was a time when your doctor could truly be your guide through the health care system. Progress in the quality and cost of medical care will come from getting back to the fundamentals of medicine, not by trying to turn doctors into ciphers.

Cheers,

Evan Falchuk
President
Best Doctors, Inc.

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By: Michael Kirsch, M.D. https://theexaminingroom.com/2010/04/beware-the-top-docs/comment-page-1/#comment-887 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:36:32 +0000 https://theexaminingroom.com/?p=700#comment-887 Many patients are drawn to prestigious physicians. If I were them, I’d think twice. http://bit.ly/4XXGYC

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By: Online Patient Surveys https://theexaminingroom.com/2010/04/beware-the-top-docs/comment-page-1/#comment-876 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:10:16 +0000 https://theexaminingroom.com/?p=700#comment-876 Good post, we BTW use patientsurvey.com for keeping a tab on patient feedback. Works out well. Makes the staff also think twice about how they treat patients. Plus, all staff wears a name tag just to make sure they know patients can see who the person is.

Our Doctors are also aware of the feedback and spend quite a bit of time going through end of the month meetings on patient care and overall satisfaction.

Regards

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By: DrV https://theexaminingroom.com/2010/04/beware-the-top-docs/comment-page-1/#comment-874 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:20:48 +0000 https://theexaminingroom.com/?p=700#comment-874 Brilliant

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By: Nick https://theexaminingroom.com/2010/04/beware-the-top-docs/comment-page-1/#comment-861 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:37:30 +0000 https://theexaminingroom.com/?p=700#comment-861 Great points. I’ve got a post in me, somewhere… someday… about how we’ve got to move away from this “top doc” mentality. And I’m not just saying this because doctors in my specialty (emergency medicine) are rarely ranked.

Think about it this way: No one ever says, “I’m booking my next flight, and got a really great pilot!” No magazines have issues featuring “the best pilots in your city.” People just assume pilots have passed their tests, logged their hours, and will get the job done. They should start to think the same way about doctors.

There’s the additional argument about extraordinary cases, like the plane that went down in the Hudson. How many pilots could do what Capt. Sully did? But Sully makes the point himself, that situations like his have been rendered extremely rare due to a culture of safety in aviation that puts established protocols over pilot ego. This hasn’t happened in medicine.

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By: Molly, NYC https://theexaminingroom.com/2010/04/beware-the-top-docs/comment-page-1/#comment-855 Sat, 10 Apr 2010 05:24:37 +0000 https://theexaminingroom.com/?p=700#comment-855 Be cautious about your own feelings about a doctor’s competence. A good bedside manner and a kind heart are important, and thinking of your doctor as a friend may lessen anxiety. But a certain distance is needed for objectivity, clear thinking, and a person’s best interest.

I’ve been living on-and-off near Portland Oregon, which is terrific. The MDs I’ve met here all seem terrific too.

However, I’ve never seen a place where abject quackery is so normalized. Acupuncturists, reikian therapists, homeopaths, a Hogwarts-like college of naturopathy, self-described practitioners of herbal therapies, aura readers, yadda yadda yadda on every street corner and mini-mall–supported by a huge chunk of the population who think these “natural healers” are just the greatest thing since Lydia Pinkham went out of business.

Ask ’em why and (1) they’ll invariably tell you about how much nicer, kinder, more caring, sweet-as-sugar the naturopaths et al. are.

Well, of course they are. What else do they really have to offer?
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(1) Once you get past the diatribe about how the MDs and DOs have all prostituted themselves and their arts to their corporate overlords in the insurance industry and Big Pharma.

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By: Aurora https://theexaminingroom.com/2010/04/beware-the-top-docs/comment-page-1/#comment-851 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 22:59:04 +0000 https://theexaminingroom.com/?p=700#comment-851 As someone who is online all. the. time. I definitely have gotten into the habit of checking the rating and online reviews of pretty much every service that I use, from the restaurant down the street to the doctor that I visit.

The rankings may not make so much difference to me, but if that means they are more likely to have reviews online, and that will make a difference. I’ll read negative and positive reviews happily (I’m with the previous responder who wanted both positive and negative reviews)… I just want to be able to learn all about them before I go in for my first visit.

This may not be the best way to pick a doctor, but as Emmy said, there isn’t a great way to pick them out, so this one works for me.

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By: micah https://theexaminingroom.com/2010/04/beware-the-top-docs/comment-page-1/#comment-850 Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:50:48 +0000 https://theexaminingroom.com/?p=700#comment-850 “And staying on time is every doctor’s goal, but sometimes a 92 year-old woman with multiple needs shouldn’t be dispatched of in 20 minutes, and patience is a community responsibility.”

Funny that this elicited such diverse responses. This was my second favorite part of this overall nice discussion on the medical hazards of social media (right after the suggestion that patients should be ranked!).

In general, I feel that the community should have a little more patience regarding just about everything. I argue that the system should be fixed so that morally-appropriate accommodations for emergencies and little old ladies do not result in regular disruptions for people like Cat and yield more frequent open slots for people like Emmy. However, it sounds like the people in Norway were ready to pay in time and treasure for that convenience, unlike the demand for McDonald’s medicine here.

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By: cynthia bailey md https://theexaminingroom.com/2010/04/beware-the-top-docs/comment-page-1/#comment-848 Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:56:24 +0000 https://theexaminingroom.com/?p=700#comment-848 Great post showing the complex mix of what makes a great doc. Practicing really good medicine is part art, part science and part something else I can’t put my finger on but I feel it every day when I see patients. Ratings are for quantifiable things, which is why it’s hard to rate docs. This is the computer/social media age and were stuck with ratings-but it’s great to keep open the discussion of why the ratings are flawed.
Thanks for doing that,
Cynthia Bailey MD
http://www.otbskincare.com/blog/

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